#acl Known:read,write All:read > DiscussionPages = Discussion Page on Marriage = == JohnHurst == contribution to discussion day, 25 Oct 2014 = Background = * Statement of UCA Theology about Marriage * Acknowledge Disagreements * Informed and Faithful discussion * Marriage Service liturgy is starting point 1. The Gathering 2. Declaration of Purpose 3. The Word 4. The Marriage 5. Prayers 6. The Blessing Here tackle just the first two. = 1. The Gathering = * Marriage service is a service of worship * Also a witness to promises and commitment == Doctrine == * Creation - marriage is the Christian context for procreation * Fall - marriages do fail * levels of failure: human joy, human sin, human brokenness * Redemption - marriages can be repaired * if not, people can be repaired * divorce and remarriage? == Practical Considerations == * divorce is a remedy, not an intrinsic good * to lose sight of the theology of marriage is to lose sight of the Xian view of marriage * NOT Xian!: * hostility towards sex * assumption of perfect innocence * pessimism about or rejection of marriage == Same Sex Marriage == || || Yes || No || || Creation || humans have "hardwired nature" || God created man and woman || || Fallenness || all are fallen, none are perfect || same-sex is intrinsically fallen || || Redemption || healing and transforming || healing and transforming ( ! ) || || || loving relationships reflect a loving God || discipline of forgiveness || = 2. The Declaration of Purpose = == Biblical Foundation == * Draws heavily upon Genesis * A profound document - how do we interpret it? Stumbling block, or Milestone, for the human journey? * Adam and Eve * Women as property, cultural issues == Sexual Faithfulness == * Xian view: Marriage or Celibacy (celibacy better!) Are these the only two? * Does marriage as "full expression of physical love" (i.e., "good sex") mean that other forms of sex are bad? == De-facto hetereo- and homo- partnerships == * Is faithfulness possible? Are these fruitful relationships? Is it about "what's in a name?" == Children and the Purpose of Marriage == || '''Anglican Prayer Book''' || '''Uniting Church''' || || 1. birth and nurture of children || 1. mutual comfort and support || || 2. safe outlet for lust, NO fornication || 2. safe outlet for lust, NO fornication || || 3. mutual comfort and support || 3. birth and nurture of children || Child rearing has been decoupled from marriage through the (birth control) pill. = 3. The Word = = 4. The Marriage = = 5. Prayers = = 6. The Blessing = ---- CategoryCongregation